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22 2006, 10:20 PM
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22 2006, 11:01 PM
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because racing a damn station wagon is about as efficient and cool as lighting money on fire.


Not true. I'd fucking race the shit out of an Audi RS4 Avant, and stomp the shit out of M3s, E39 M5s, and many other cars while I'm at it.

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22 2006, 11:58 PM
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but a wagon is not a good platform to start or finish on man. no offense to jaxx. if you like your car thats all that matters, period.

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QUOTE (WOLFatNCSU @ Jan 22 2006, 11:01 PM)
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because racing a damn station wagon is about as efficient and cool as lighting money on fire.


Not true. I'd fucking race the shit out of an Audi RS4 Avant, and stomp the shit out of M3s, E39 M5s, and many other cars while I'm at it.

Exactly what i was thinkin wolf Audi Wagons are sweetness.

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23 2006, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE (chris n @ Jan 22 2006, 11:58 PM)
but a wagon is not a good platform to start or finish on man. no offense to jaxx. if you like your car thats all that matters, period.

Why's that? Weight distribution isn't affected by the fact that it's a wagon, it'll have better chassis stiffness than a snatchback, fantastic utility, they can be just as good as or better platforms than many. Now the 850 I'm not really vouching for, it's a front driver, with noted traction probs, but it's still not a bad platform.
 
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23 2006, 06:39 AM
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Since when? A4 Avant weighs no more than the A4 sedan, Protege5 weighs no more than a base model protege(which weighs less than a S2000), and both cars have a low center of gravity. Wagons are not SUVs man.
 
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23 2006, 08:09 AM
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without upgrading the suspension and shaving/relocating weight elsewhere, a wagon is not as good of a platform as a regular sedan would be with the same suspension geometry.
 
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23 2006, 10:22 AM
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I pay attention to what they are racing on the track while what wolf is saying could be true its not practiced that often but I use to kind of question wagon but some of them running around unsure.gif

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23 2006, 10:46 AM
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people race trucks as well, doesnt make them a good platform. im sure there are a few RS4's running around on circuit tracks.
 
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23 2006, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE (chris n @ Jan 23 2006, 08:09 AM)
without upgrading the suspension and shaving/relocating weight elsewhere, a wagon is not as good of a platform as a regular sedan would be with the same suspension geometry.

when volvo was in the BTCC they prefered the use of the wagons because of better areo dynamics and a stiffer frame.

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yea up until the btcc allowed front and rear spoilers and the next season after switchin to the saloon car they won the first race i believe i read...
 
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